{"id":78,"date":"2007-05-17T07:51:40","date_gmt":"2007-05-17T14:51:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/chriswisniaarts.com\/blog\/?p=78"},"modified":"2010-04-26T11:57:16","modified_gmt":"2010-04-26T17:57:16","slug":"74-doris-danger-trade-february-2006","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chriswisniaarts.com\/blog\/archives\/78","title":{"rendered":"74. DORIS DANGER TRADE, FEBRUARY 2006"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had finished a five-issue run of my comic, Tabloia, and now that I&#8217;d had two official years of failing business under my belt, I wanted to try and publish as much as I could, and preferably some books that might sell a little better.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Artists have been telling me that comics sell okay, or more likely they don&#8217;t sell very well at all.<font>  <\/font>But when you put out your trade paperbacks, that&#8217;s where you can make your money back.<font>  <\/font>Trades have the higher cover price, so they don&#8217;t sell as many copies, but the higher price creates a higher income, and this is your bread and butter.<font>  <\/font>I&#8217;ve heard of artists who just give away their comics when the trades come out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I hate this idea.<font>  <\/font>I never cared particularly for trades.<font>   <\/font>I love the feel and size of comics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Sure, I understand why people would prefer to just buy a trade, and have the complete story all in one package.<font>  <\/font>But it&#8217;s always disappointed me, the thought that trades are better loved by everyone than the format I love most.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">And what&#8217;s worse, to me, is that the comics market is such that many self-publishers wind up doing only trades or graphic novels, and not even bothering with the comics, because they just simply can&#8217;t make money at it.<font>  <\/font>But I thought, now that I had four different characters from my Tabloia comics, that it would be fun, rather than packaging the five issues of Tabloia as a trade, if I packaged each character from Tabloia as a separate trade.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Of course marketing played into this.<font>  <\/font>I had learned now, that people weren&#8217;t interested in an anthology.<font>  <\/font>Or at least, they weren&#8217;t interested in my anthology.<font>  <\/font>I wanted to see if making each trade a specific, unique character was more popular to readers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Collecting my Doris Danger stories was of course my first choice for trying to put together a decent, marketable product that people might actually buy.<font>  <\/font>Why Doris?<font>  <\/font>Because I already had five five-page stories, one from each of my Tabloia issues, inked by Dick Ayers.<font>  <\/font>I had fifteen pin-ups of giant monsters, three per issue, from these comics as well.<font>  <\/font>That meant Sam Kieth, Mike Mignola, Mike Allred, Los Bros Hernandez, Tony Millionaire, Gene Colan, John Severin, and everybody.<font>  <\/font>How tempting that would have to be for people to want to buy!<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But similar to how, with Tabloia, I began with issue #572, because I thought it was more interesting artistically, I decided with this comic that I didn&#8217;t want it to be standard-sized.<font>  <\/font>Why not?<font>  <\/font>Not just to insure the book would be a financial failure.<font>  <\/font>These were stories of giant monsters in the Jack Kirby style.<font>  <\/font>Jack Kirby used to draw these stories on HUGE sheets of paper.<font>  <\/font>And the subject matter, in my opinion, deserved a huge style.<font>  <\/font>I wanted those giant monsters to REALLY BE GIANT!<font>  <\/font>I looked at old 1970&#8217;s treasury editions that Marvel and DC used to put out, and I loved how big the pages were.<font>  <\/font>I loved that, proportionately the page-to-reader ration made you feel like you were a little kid and comics were so big.<font>  <\/font>Looking at these treasuries as well as the Kirby Collector volumes, I thought the size proportions were weirdly shaped.<font>  <\/font>I looked at the size of Love and Rockets, and Daniel Clowes&#8217; Eightball featuring the Deathray, and they seemed a little too small.<font>  <\/font>I finally decided on 9&#8243; x 13,&#8221; because it was round, unfractioned numbers, but a solid 2 to 3 ratio for the image size, with a solid 1\/2&#8243; around each side of the image.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Whenever I do a project, while I&#8217;m working on it, I assume it&#8217;s going to be my masterpiece, and the book that will catch on, and that people will remember.<font>  <\/font>I spent a month or so cleaning up the images of every page, so that every line would be as crisp as possible.<font>  <\/font>I especially did this, knowing each page would be blown up larger than standard size, and that it would be so much easier to see the blemishes.<font>  <\/font>I did this because I always thought the Doris Danger stories looked kind of sloppy in Tabloia.<font>  <\/font>This was my fault, because Dick inked them and returned them without erasing my pencils, and for some reason I thought it would have more depth with the pencils still visible underneath.<font>  <\/font>Once they were printed, I realized it just looked sloppy to me, and I didn&#8217;t want this Doris Danger project to look sloppy in that way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Just the five stories and fifteen pin-ups would only get my page count to forty, and I didn&#8217;t think this was enough for a &#8220;trade paperback.&#8221;<font>  <\/font>My original idea was to publish two or three regular comics of Doris Danger, and then collect those comics with the Tabloia stories.<font>  <\/font>I changed my mind after San Diego 2005, because I learned that Marvel was going to release a series of Kirby-style monster comics for Halloween.<font>  <\/font>When I found out, I cranked out one new six page story, and five pages of new monster splash pages, a couple pages of new text about the fake history of Doris Danger in the fifties, and a collection of all the fake letters I&#8217;d posted about Doris in the Tabloias, and I called this package a 56-page spectacular, hoping I could ride on any potential waves Marvel made with their monster-pushing agenda.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">It turned out, first of all, that the Marvel monster books didn&#8217;t make that big a splash.<font>  <\/font>But the other problem was that by the time I got my Doris Danger book listed in Previews, it was a month or so after the Marvel monster books came out, so I didn&#8217;t really have any waves to catch, and I was too late for them anyways.<font>  <\/font>Ah well, my motives were pure&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">For this book, I didn&#8217;t do any advertising.<font>  <\/font>I thought it would be an experiment to see if there&#8217;s really any big difference in my numbers without spending the extra money on advertising.<font>  <\/font>I had run a number of ads here and there, and couldn&#8217;t see much difference in sales.<font>  <\/font>If my numbers dropped this issue, which I considered the cream of Tabloia&#8217;s crop, then I would consider advertising.<font>  <\/font>I would also consider advertising next book, and including this one as &#8220;still available,&#8221; thereby getting two ads out of one payment for an ad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I was hopeful that my orders would do better.<font>  <\/font>I knew that I would be better off, even if the numbers were smaller, because the book had a higher cover price &#8211; $10 instead of the $4 I&#8217;d been publishing.<font>  <\/font>The distributor takes 60% of that, which means I make $4 a book, instead of $1.40.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I was, as usual, disappointed to see the numbers come in.<font>  <\/font>I got 336 sales of that book, which got me $1336 from my distributor.<font>  <\/font>Even though it wasn&#8217;t my highest numbers of sales, and even though I was still disappointed with these numbers, it was my highest income from any of my books.<font>  <\/font>My second best issue was the first issue of Tabloia, which sold 613 and made me $968.<font>  <\/font>So Doris Danger looked considerably successful, compared to my other books&#8230;at first glance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Then I realized my Tabloias cost fifteen to eighteen hundred dollars to print (depending on just how many I grossly overprinted), and this Doris Danger book cost me $3500.<font>  <\/font>So if I wanted to be literally realistic (which always hurts too much to actually do), this was my least successful book, because subtracting what I made from the cost, I had lost practically two thousand dollars, instead of my usual eighteen hundred.<font>  <\/font>Granted, I have extra Doris Danger books which I can theoretically sell over time.<font>  <\/font>But Jesus, what an industry, if my most successful book is my biggest financial failure.<\/p>\n<p>I wasn&#8217;t as concerned at this, however, because I was so proud of this book.<font>  <\/font>I thought it turned out so damn well, it was just a gorgeous package, and I was so pleased with it, and confident that it would sell if people saw it, and saw how many fucking great artists were contained in it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had finished a five-issue run of my comic, Tabloia, and now that I&#8217;d had two official years of failing business under my belt, I wanted to try and publish as much as I could, and preferably some books that might sell a little better. 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