{"id":42,"date":"2007-05-14T11:12:28","date_gmt":"2007-05-14T18:12:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/chriswisniaarts.com\/blog\/?p=42"},"modified":"2010-04-23T10:58:31","modified_gmt":"2010-04-23T16:58:31","slug":"38-a-real-personality-at-wondercon-2004","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/chriswisniaarts.com\/blog\/archives\/42","title":{"rendered":"38. A REAL PERSONALITY AT WONDERCON 2004"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/chriswisniaarts.com\/images\/blogimage.jpg?resize=144%2C216\" width=\"144\" align=\"left\" height=\"216\" \/>After my first and memorable experience with Steranko at a store signing, you can imagine how much I was looking forward to another leisurely friendly attempt to get a pin-up from him at Wondercon. I don&#8217;t think I was quite shaking or perspiring, but I was definitely nervous. 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